Update from The Bottom Line: 2/12/04
The following is reproduced from the official web site of The Bottom Line dated February 12, 2004
Thank you for your support of The Bottom Line. Though we are sad to have left our home on West 4th Street, we are now making plans for the future to continue The Bottom Line’s commitment to music. We continue to be moved by your e-mails, your memories and the outpouring of support for the club and the voice that it provides. We are actively meeting with our original financial backers, and with those who have contacted us since then, with the goal of presenting, better than ever, The Bottom Line’s unique music.
If you want to get in touch with us you can e-mail us at bltmailbox@aol.com.
Keep checking the website www.bottomlinecabaret.com because we will give you updates on a regular basis. In response to a number of e-mails, yes we do plan on continuing the timeline, and will try and put up more dates and a few more stories in the immediate future. And yes, T-shirts are still available will continue to be sold through the website payment can be made according to the instructions on the website.
We will keep you posted as things move forward. Stay tuned for more developments.
Allan and Stanley
A message from your friends at SaveTheBottomLine.com . . .
Well, we all tried. Unfortunately, our best efforts together weren’t strong enough to hold back the creeping tide that is NYU from swallowing up yet another part of Greenwich Village - a pillar of NYC musical history called The Bottom Line.
We would like to thank everyone who has visited our web site since it launched on September 16, 2003 (the day after the sad news broke), everyone who signed our online petition, the artists who put their names to the Artists’ Statement, and all who shared their thoughts and feelings in our message board forum.
This has been a difficult and sad time not just for the people at The Bottom Line nightclub itself, but for their legion of fans and supporters as well. We here at SaveTheBottomLine.com hope that in some small way, we were able to provide through this site a means for fellow supporters to link up, to have a dialogue, to make their voices heard, to obtain current information, and to see that they stood shoulder to shoulder with thousands of like-minded music fans across the globe - in short, an online community in which we were all citizens together.
Signing off,
Karen & Carmine DeMarco
Virtual Town Pages - Web Site Creation + Internet Directories
Final Message from The Bottom Line: 1/22/04
The following is reproduced from the official web site of The Bottom Line dated January 22, 2004
After almost thirty years of bringing a wide variety of exciting and innovative artists to the stage at the corner of West 4th and Mercer, The Bottom Line will be closing its doors for the last time today.
We would like to take this opportunity to thank all of our extraordinary friends and supporters who have rallied around us during these difficult last six months: our incredible staff who are like family, the wonderful musicians who have vowed not to let our legacy be forgotten, and the kindness of strangers who created websites, wrote letters, signed petitions, sent gifts, bought T-shirts and came to the club to show their support.
Most of all, we want to thank our families for making a very painful and surreal experience a bit more bearable. We would not have been able to get through this without your love and support.
When we opened The Bottom Line on February 12, 1974, our goal was to create a Music Room not a jazz, rock or folk club but a venue where many different genres could find an audience. The Bottom Line has always been about the music, and we find fulfillment in knowing that we have stayed the course and remained true to our vision.
Most importantly, we are proud to have provided a stage where new acts grew to become familiar friends, where unknown acts became super stars, where pioneers and innovators could stake their claim, where acts who were tentative could fail, fall on their faces and then could come back and learn to do it the right way, where established acts who were no longer the flavor of the month could maintain their dignity and nurture their creativity from a loyal audience who would sit and listen to every note in the intimacy of The Bottom Line and then react as if they were in a stadium 10,000 times its size, where artists who had lost their way could find an audience who were not judgmental but always open to something new because they love the music, and it was a stage where artists who only drew dozens of people were encouraged to build an audience that ultimately extended to lines around the block, and it was always there for artists who deserved to be heard because of their amazing talent as opposed to their box office draw. For all those things and more, the stage at The Bottom Line was special.
We hope that The Bottom Line has meant something in your lives, and it has given you as much joy as it has for us in presenting the extraordinary artists that have performed on our stage. We take enormous pleasure in knowing that over the last thirty years we have increased the world's potential for music.
Allan and Stanley
January 22, 2004
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Update from The Bottom Line: 12/9/03
The following is reproduced from the official web site of The Bottom Line dated December 9, 2003
After speaking with NYU President John Sexton, Councilperson Alan Gerson approached The Bottom Line late on Friday, December 5, 2003, to offer his good offices as a mediator-facilitator between The Bottom Line and NYU. The Bottom Line worked intensely with Councilperson Gerson over the weekend to craft an agreement that Gerson felt would meet NYU’s needs and at least work as a starting point for reaching a lease agreement. Beyond including an initial payment to NYU of $55,000.00 to show good faith, The Bottom Line included a mentoring program for NYU students in the Music Business program, and a work-study initiative for NYU students.
Today, that proposal (which we have included in its entirety) was unequivocally turned down by NYU’s attorneys, who said that the University was not interested in any way, shape or form in entertaining this proposal or any proposal, and in fact had no desire to have any communication with The Bottom Line at all. NYU’s response speaks volumes for their true intention, and perhaps their intention from the very beginning.
Submitted to NYU, Monday, December 8, 2003:
In an effort to reestablish negotiations with New York University with the goal of reaching a mutually amicable settlement to the current situation, The Bottom Line would like to propose the following offer to President John Sexton and NYU: The Bottom Line will pay four months at the current rent of $11,250 for a total of $55,000, which shall be broken down in the following manner: $22,500 for November and December 2003 “use and occupancy” $22,500 prepaid for January through Feb 2004 “use and occupancy”. Furthermore, to show good faith, and to further establish The Bottom Line’s desire to remain a tenant in their current location, an additional $10,000 toward arrearages will be paid in good faith, for a total of $55,000 by The Bottom Line to New York University. Payment of the $22,500 shall be made by the close of business on Tuesday, Dec. 9, 2003. Payment of the balance shall be made by Tuesday, Dec. 15, 2003. The above offer is extended with the following conditions: 1. NYU agrees to stay the eviction and a complete stay of enforcement. 2. NYU agrees to enter into good faith negotiations with The Bottom Line in a good faith effort to negotiate a new ten year lease. Councilmember Gerson, or a senior member of his staff, will act as a facilitator and/or intermediary. 3. NYU and The Bottom Line agree to jointly prepare a press release, to be issued by Councilmember Gerson, announcing the combined efforts to resolve the current situation. In this press release, Allan Pepper and Stanley Snadowsky will thank NYU President John Sexton for becoming personally involved in the negotiations in order to try to help reach a beneficial resolution for all parties. 4. As part of the ongoing negotiations, the Bottom Line will attempt to create a mentoring proposal which will allow NYU students from the Music Business program to get hands on experience at The Bottom Line. Further, NYU students would be given priority hiring for all employment positions, and The Bottom Line shall work in tandem with the work-study offices at NYU. In light of the court’s ruling, we would appreciate a response at your earliest convenience.
COURT APPROVES EVICTION OF THE BOTTOM LINE
The following is reproduced from the official web site of The Bottom Line dated December 3, 2003
Today is a dark day for the arts in the City of New York. Despite the protests of artists and citizens throughout the world, the court has granted New York University's demand for the eviction of The Bottom Line. As a result of NYU's action, the music that has played for nearly 30 years at 15 West 4th Street will soon be silenced.
Since June, we have presented New York University with numerous proposals in the hopes that this day would never come. As recent as two weeks ago we sent a counterproposal to the onerous terms which NYU submitted to us; alas, they never had the courtesy to respond. Indeed, just last week the judge offered to mediate a resolution between NYU and The Bottom Line. Sadly each and every one of these solutions has either been ignored or rejected by NYU.
Over the last month many concerned private and corporate citizens including: Sirius Satellite Radio, Bruce Springsteen, Mel Karmazin, Richard Wissack and AT&T have all offered financial commitments to help demonstrate to NYU that they were the custodians of something much more valuable than a piece of "undervalued real estate." In fact, in a cultural and historic sense this piece of real estate might be the most valuable property in their portfolio.
Even in this 11th hour, when the court has already ruled, we are still calling upon John Sexton, the President of NYU to use his good offices to help bring about a more reasonable solution to this situation. Not to act means everyone loses. We believe his silence will reverberate far into the future, as would his leadership if he chooses to act. His silence will be considered when future students choose what university they wish to attend, because what school you choose says much about who you are. His silence will be remembered by alumni, when they are deciding about contributing to their alma mater. It will be remembered by the people of New York City who will remember that NYU is more interested in swallowing their neighbors than preserving their neighborhood's quality of life. And Mr.Sexton's silence will be considered by that "next Einstein" the University so hopes to attract, because he or she will know that as much of an elite University education takes place outside the classroom as within it. After all, it was the first Einstein who said, "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
Our hope is that in the time we have left a concerned member of this community, city, state or nation who may have influence far beyond ours will be able to persuade NYU to reevaluate their position so that they realize that the university will be diminished by eliminating one of the most important classrooms on their campus. Any other university in this country cannot match this classroom where art, culture and history are taught by a distinguished faculty past and present including Professors: Bruce Springsteen, Miles Davis, Bill Monroe, Count Basie, John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, Bill Evans, Richard Price, Aaron Copland, Tony Bennett, Ringo Starr, Emmylou Harris, June Carter Cash, Patti Smith, George Jones, Doc Watson, Lou Reed, Kris Kristofferson, Alan Ginsberg, Joan Baez, Ravi Shankar, Jerry Garcia and Dizzy Gillespie.
As for The Bottom Line, if NYU does not grant us some type of reprieve (which only they can do) we will be able to present live music only until the Marshall silences us by executing New York University's warrant of eviction.
AT&T funds sponsorship so the bands play on
at The Bottom Line
Company joins SIRIUS Satellite Radio in support of club and to create
special promotions
FOR RELEASE MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
Morristown, N.J. - AT&T today announced a $100,000 sponsorship for programs and events at New York's Bottom Line, the Greenwich Village-based nightclub and host to a who's who list of musical legends.
"AT&T's sponsorship is given in the spirit of supporting a cultural icon for music lovers that uniquely represents the vibrancy and diversity of New York," said Kevin Crull, senior vice president, AT&T Consumer.
"We're looking forward to working with The Bottom Line in its mission to showcase new and known artists today and in the future," he said.
AT&T will make it even easier for consumers to enjoy their favorite musical artists, including many of those who perform at The Bottom Line. AT&T is teaming with SIRIUS Satellite Radio, another supporter of The Bottom Line, to offer special promotions for selected new and existing AT&T customers on a SIRIUS Satellite Radio.
SIRIUS broadcasts 60 commercial-free music streams as well as 40 news, sports and entertainment streams via satellite directly into cars, homes and offices. In September, SIRIUS underscored its commitment to the music community by pledging major financial support to help The Bottom Line remain in operation.
"AT&T's generous sponsorship is recognition of our intent to survive our current business difficulties, and to thrive in the coming years," said Allan Pepper, co-founder and co-owner of The Bottom Line.
"We're delighted to be associated with AT&T as supporters of The Bottom Line," remarked Mary Pat Ryan, Executive VP Marketing, SIRIUS. "Ever since the inception of our company, SIRIUS has been a committed supporter of music of all genres; we're happy that AT&T shares our passion."
Listen to The Kennedys sing “SaveTheBottomLine.com”

If you know good music, then you should know The Kennedys. They’ve now written a song in support of the club, titled after our web site: "SaveTheBottomLine.com". To listen to the song, click here. To learn more about The Kennedys and their music, please visit their web site at www.kennedysmusic.com. You can order their CDs here.
WFUV 90.7 FM talks with SaveTheBottomLine.com
Claudia Marshall, host of WFUV 90.7 FM’s “City Folk Morning” program, sat down and talked recently with the staff of SaveTheBottomLine.com. Click here to listen to a Real Audio stream of the interview. (WFUV is member-supported public radio from Fordham University in New York City.)
An update from Allan Pepper and Stanley Snadowsky,
owners of The Bottom Line
The following is reproduced from the official web site of The Bottom Line dated November 12, 2003
A LETTER IN RESPONSE TO JOHN BECKMAN’S RECENT MAILING TO PEOPLE
WHO SIGNED SAVE THE BOTTOM LINE PETITION
We have learned that John Beckman of NYU has sent a letter to many supporters of The Bottom Line explaining that NYU really wants to keep The Bottom Line as a tenant. In an ideal world, we would challenge each and every allegation made by him. We cannot do so; we will honor our promise to NYU not to litigate or negotiate this matter in public, and, even though they’re the ones who insisted we not do so, they have repeatedly maligned The Bottom Line and its attorneys to the public and in the media.
NYU is holding all the cards; they are our landlord and we have no lease. We have no legal right to a renewal of a commercial lease; the only way The Bottom Line can survive is if NYU elects to let us stay on with a reasonable and fair new lease.
The terms of the lease submitted to us by NYU were in no way dictated or suggested by us. We now pay $11,250 in rent per month. In the lease that was presented to us, NYU has placed the first year’s rent at $27,800 with each consecutive year increasing exponentially.
So we ask you, if we dictated the terms of this lease, why in the world would The Bottom Line offer not just to double its current rent but to nearly triple it?
This is one example of many conditions imposed on us which are impossible to meet. So The Bottom Line’s self destruction is assured if we had to sign this lease.
So, we will leave it that Mr. Beckman and NYU have a different opinion of what has transpired from ours. Since they seem inflexible and possibly not forthright in their demands (which they have every right to be because it is indeed their building), we do feel it is appropriate for us to be clear with our supporters that without movement on NYU’s part we are left with no other alternative than to try and raise as much money as possible to be able to negotiate those demands to keep The Bottom Line at its current location.
Thank you for your support.
Allan Pepper and Stanley Snadowsky
The Bottom Line
Message from SaveTheBottomLine.com to petition signers: We were shocked and upset to learn that NYU’s representatives had culled your e-mail addresses from the online petition and bombarded the signatories with a spam e-mail. On Wednesday, November 5, we received an e-mail from John Beckman of NYU, attaching a Word document of what would become his spam e-mail and asking us for “a favor”: namely, to “transmit it to them all”, meaning the petition signatories. Before we could respond to Mr. Beckman’s request that we spam you on NYU’s behalf, we discovered the following day that he had already proceeded to spam our petition signatories. We apologize to our visitors for this gross breach of Internet protocol by NYU, and suggest that you let NYU know how you feel about the unsolicited intrusion.
Statement by Richard Barone regarding The Bottom Line:
“For those of you who live in the New York area, you know that the Bottom Line is more than a landmark -- more than a building with an illustrious history -- but a thriving and supportive musical home for musicians and audiences alike. For me, it has always been an incredibly creative, almost sacred place. First, going to see the legendary greats there. Then, performing with The Bongos on that stage before we signed to RCA. Later, recording my first solo album (cool blue halo) there... Developing the monthly “Writers in the Round” series with my friend Jules Shear which ran at the Bottom Line for a year in the mid-90s, performing in numerous “Beat Goes On” shows and other special events there... and, for the past five years, directing and performing in the phenomenal “Downtown Messiah” which is now heard annually on over 100 public radio stations nationwide -- an event that simply could not have been created anywhere else.
The bottom line is: This place must be saved!
Thanks, and all the best,”
Richard Barone
Statement by Bruce Springsteen regarding The Bottom Line:
“Over the last 20 years, the Bottom Line has made itself a central part of New York City culture. When I think of the most memorable nights in my own career, few match the week of shows we did there in 1975. As a musician, as a citizen, and as one who loves New York City, I truly hope that a solution can be found that allows the Bottom Line and Allan and Stanley to continue their important, valuable work for many years to come.”
Bruce Springsteen, 10/20/03
Statement from New York City Councilman Alan Gerson
Alan Gerson is a member of the New York City Council from District 1, who has publicly come out in support of The Bottom Line. “The Bottom Line Cabaret is a vital functioning, historical link to all that is good about Greenwich Village. . . . The compact that NYU has with the taxpayers implies that it should be dedicated to the educational and cultural enrichment of its students and the community. . . . From a curatorial point of view, we must do whatever we can to preserve the Bottom Line.” Click here for the full text of the statement which Councilman Gerson brough to court and publicly released on Thursday, 10/23.
An update from Allan Pepper and Stanley Snadowsky,
owners of The Bottom Line
The following is reproduced from the official web site of The Bottom Line dated October 24, 2003
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, The Bottom Line was back in court after a four-week stay in the ongoing eviction proceedings brought on by New York University. Both sides presented their cases before the Honorable Donna Recant, and rather than entering a decision immediately she adjourned the case for further deliberation. By law, the court has up to 30 days to enter a decision, which means The Bottom Line has been granted another stay - but we do not know for how long.
What does this mean? The Bottom Line has a bit more time to come up with enough money to meet the demands of a new ten-year lease with N.Y.U., a very sizable sum. While two more people have come through with significant sums of money to help the cause, it is only one-third of the amount we believe will be necessary to make our case incontrovertible to the Powers That Be at N.Y.U. More money is needed, and at this point gifts both large and small are necessary to save The Bottom Line. Many fans of the club have asked if they could send money (even just small amounts), and we are working with our lawyer on the proper procedures to accept gifts, so please keep checking the website for more information on that.
Furthermore, N.Y.U. needs to continue to be reminded of the importance and significance of keeping The Bottom Line alive. We know there is a better way for this to be resolved, where both N.Y.U. and The Bottom Line can continue to live together as they have for the last thirty years.
Thank you for your support.
Allan Pepper and Stanley Snadowsky
The Bottom Line
9/25/03 update from Allan Pepper and Stanley Snadowsky,
owners of The Bottom Line
The following is reproduced from the official web site of The Bottom Line dated September 25, 2003
We are pleased to announce that The Bottom Line has been granted a four week stay, due in large part to the overwhelming public support and to Sirius Satellite Radio, who has generously stepped up and agreed to put up the $185,000 in back rent. We cannot thank them enough for believing in The Bottom Line and its long history of making music, and breaking and furthering the careers of artists. Sirius is also planning to host three nights a week of the music that you have come to associate with The Bottom Line, throw “rent” parties to help the club, and to set up a $10,000 scholarship and internships for NYU students.
We must thank all of youthe fans, the musicians, the members of the community, and students past and present of NYUwho have written letters and voiced support for The Bottom Line. Allan and Stanley read every single letter, and were moved by how articulate and well-thought out they were, but most of all, were enormously touched by what this place means to so many people. We are looking forward to the 30th Anniversary of The Bottom Line in February 2004, but please know that we are not yet out of the woods. Now we need to continue to work out a viable financial plan which NYU can agree to, in exchange for a long-term lease.
We would also like to take this moment to publicly thank Karen and Carmine DeMarco, who have done an incredible job of getting the word out around the world with their website, www.savethebottomline.com. They have created a forum for people to express and exchange stories, and some very creative suggestionsbelieve us, we are reading them all.
Many of you have asked about the possibility of benefits to raise money, and several of you have suggested that we go back to the artists who got their start here. That is a lot more difficult than you might imagine, but we are exploring those possibilities. Several artists, managers, and representatives have called us to offer their support, and we are currently working on logistics to put these shows together.
Here’s the deal: we promise to keep you updated, but there is a big job still ahead of us. We have one month to raise a substantial amount of money to be used for operating capital and renovations in order to satisfy NYU’s requirements for a ten-year lease. While the lawyers are negotiating in good faith, we are booking future shows while simultaneously looking for a strategic partner. You can help by coming to shows, supporting the artists and our committed staff who love The Bottom Line, and continue the wonderful work you are doing, especially as we come up on the next court date (October 23, 2003).
Thank you again for your love and support,
Allan and Stanley

It may be the end of the road for the venerable
Greenwich Village nightclub, The Bottom Line.
The sad news broke in a New York Times story on Monday, September 15: The Bottom Line’s landlord, New York University, claims that the club owes $185,000 in back rent and that the school also needs the space. As a result, NYU has filed an eviction proceeding to take possession of the club. The court hearing has been continued from Wednesday, September 24 to Wednesday, October 23.
If you would like to show your support for The Bottom Line nightclub and its continued existence, please sign our online petition, which we will present to the relevant NYU’s administators, as requested in the below letter from The Bottom Line’s owners. (Note to NYU alumni: as of 10/12/03, we have set up a new, separate sign-up area specifically for NYU alumni to let the current school administration know how you feel - please sign the NYU alumni petition.) After signing the petition, please participate in our message board forum, to let others know why you support The Bottom Line, to leave your memories of great shows you’ve seen at the club over the years, or to put forth suggestions on what might be done to save The Bottom Line. And thanks very much for participating.

Not about commerce, but culture . . .
Is there a better venue for live music in New York, one with better sightlines and acoustics, one more intimate and comfortable? Is there another room where a singer-songwriter’s considerable talents can be better displayed -- not only for average listeners but for record company types with pockets deep enough to bring that music to a larger audience?
Nope.
Whether a solitary singer or full band is onstage, no room delivers music so up close and personal. I’ve written about music for more than 20 years, and have enjoyed countless performances there.
In fact, anyone who’s been to the Bottom Line can cite a magical evening, be it a night during the legendary Springsteen run, an installment of the Downtown Messiah, or this author’s personal highlight, Television’s “farewell” performance in 1978.
It’s near-impossible to grasp the sheer depth and breadth of talent, but you can start with a tiny sampling:
- Lou Reed
- Keith Richards
- Van Morrison
- Doc Watson
- Mose Allison
- Stevie Wonder
- Bob Marley
- Tom Waits
- Leonard Cohen
- Taj Mahal
- Talking Heads
- Elvis Costello & the Attractions
- The Police
- Tito Puente
- Son Seals
- Billy Joel
- Muddy Waters
- Jackson Browne
- Warren Zevon
- Jean Pierre Rampal
- Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
- Carly Simon & James Taylor
- Chet Atkins & Les Paul
- Peter Gabriel
- Prince
- Shel Silverstein
- John Belushi
- Patti Smith
- and, of course: The Ramones
What matters now, though, is the future.
As the megacorporations narrow their investments into a dwindling stable of megastars, more and more singer-songwriters continue to get marginalized out of business.
What’s more, despite its claims to being the greatest city and the world and the center of the universe, New York already has too few venues for such talent to be heard.
There is only one live music venue of its kind worthy of being dubbed an historic landmark.
The Bottom Line: This is not about commerce but culture.
contributed by Jerry DeMarco

The following is a reproduction of the original notice of the problem posted on The Bottom Line’s web site:
HELP SAVE THE BOTTOM LINE:
A note to friends of the Bottom Line from Allan Pepper and Stanley Snadowsky:
The doors may soon close on a thirty year legacy.
The Bottom Line has been presenting live music since February 12, 1974, and is owned and operated by Allan Pepper and Stanley Snadowsky, who have been friends since childhood. The Bottom Line is unique because it is a “mom & pop store” amidst a crowded field of conglomerates and corporations. Our main commodity in the club has always been and will always be the music.
The Bottom Line has always been, and still is, run by Allan & Stanley, who take a great pride in what they do. They always have and still love the music.
The problem is as follows:
Even before the terrorist attacks on the World Trader Center, the nation was already feeling the downturn in the economy. Our business, along with so many other small businesses, has not been able to recover since the tragedy of September 11th. Attendance to shows has declined. In addition, our customers are feeling economic stress, our bills have been multiplying, and we have found ourselves substantially behind in our rent. Our landlord, New York University, has started eviction proceedings.
During our negotiations with New York University to resolve this situation, the Bottom Line has presented several different proposals to pay our past due rent, while at the same time keeping current with a new, higher rent proposed by NYU. Unfortunately, NYU has not been open to negotiating a long-term solution to our mutual problem. We want to pay off our debt to NYU, but to do so we need to remain in business. To stay in business, we need a promise from NYU that, if we pay off the rental arrears, they won’t evict the Bottom Line.
Unless we can sway NYU to give us this basic assurance, we won’t be able to take the steps necessary to save the Bottom Line. If you’d like to help, here’s what you can do.
Let NYU know how important the Bottom Line is to the metropolitan area and what a loss it would be if the city was downsized by another landmark - particularly if you are an alumnus/a of NYU. Send a note to John Beckman assistant vice president of the Office of Public Affairs at john.beckman@nyu.edu or Lynne Brown, the VP for University Relations and Public Affairs at NYU at lynne.brown@nyu.edu. Please send us a copy at SaveBLT@aol.com - and please forward this message to your friends.
Please support The Bottom Line now. Do not put off seeing a show today because we may not have a tomorrow.
You can e-mail us at: SaveBLT@aol.com.
Thank you for your support.
Allan Pepper and Stanley Snadowsky
The Bottom Line

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